Is the only good saint a dead saint?
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INTRO

ALIVE SAINTS

DAY TO DAY

·        Healing – recommend other methods, placebo

·        Exorcism – Brown’s theory of aggression – chasing demons away

·        Day to helping pwer

·        Hospitality

·        Mango – rightly points to Nicholas and variety of saint – suggesting miracles historicity not important – dubious nature

BROWN MEDIATOR, OBJECTIVE

·        Urban and rural saint plays crucial role as outside

·        Patron like in village – objectivity for law disputes in increasingly free state – need objectivity as imperial institutions lose it

·        Careful not to take role in society – away from it

·        Urban – Daniel Stylite arbitration Emperor – powerful there as well.

DEAD SAINTS

MANGO

·        More important – miracles lost and people ask for forgiveness, closer to God and healing – irrespective of dubious past of saint

·        Protector – patronus and amicus – friend and patron of particular person – bloke in Nosa gaining prestige and geographical centre from Felix

·        Community gains prestige as relics transported (no need for large pilgrimage network)- quote about perfume and uplifting of saint

CONCLUSION

• Difficult evidence – esp. spirituality and narrow confines – clear did some good, whether deserved it or not from Holy Miracles – important part to stress is perceived to have done miracles and this aided society. Brown’s arguments believable – evidence rather short and narrow confines – reasonable
• Difficult to split Saints dead and alive – not necessarily acts but reputation

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